Will people ever learn?

Another failure of diplomacy. Iran has joined the nuclear club. It’s unsurprising that El Baradei, the IAEA, and the UN failed. Diplomacy may work when you’re dealing with people who are rational, not diametrically opposed to you, and not belligerent, but I think it’s usefulness ends there. You just can’t talk a guy with a messianic complex who has called for the utter destruction of other countries out of his toys. I think I’ll start placing bets on when Israel bombs the crap out of Iran’s nuclear facilities, which would be a nice distraction for Iran from pumping terrorists into Iraq.

In all seriousness, can anybody point to one time when diplomacy undeniably caused a rogue state/dictator/belligerent country to give up his weapons/cease hostilities? Diplomatic success immediately after coups, massive internal changes, and the deaths of heads of state doesn’t count. I can’t think of a single instance. Libya might be an option, but I would argue that decades of diplomacy and embargos did nothing until the Coalition’s show of force in Iraq toppled Saddam. If anybody can think of any, I’d like to hear it. (via Drudge)

Another failure of appeasement. It’s perplexing that the French — of all people! — haven’t learned this lesson:

French students, emboldened by President Jacques Chirac’s cave-in on a youth jobs measure, prepared new protests Tuesday to try to get rid of other government labor reforms.

Unions declared victory on Monday after Chirac abandoned the measure that had spurred nationwide unrest, paralyzed secondary schools and universities and created a crisis for the government.

Maybe they think appeasement just doesn’t work when dealing with Nazis. I also can’t help but point out that a 22% jobless rate among youths is amazingly high. Our youth (16 – 24) unemployment rate last summer was 11%. (via Cox and Forkum)

8 thoughts on “Will people ever learn?”

  1. What these French kids don’t realize was that this legislation was actually to make it EASIER for young people in France to get a job. Of course, if they want to convince businesses to hire people, they have to let businesses fire the unproductive ones.

  2. I think you’re judging diplomacy efforts to harshly. Even if diplomacy is destined to fail (which I admit is a possibility), I think it’s a necessary step from both a moral as well as a strategic viewpoint.

    Actually, I think that the enrichment of this non-weapons grade uranium is probably a good thing for diplomatic efforts. Iran’s still a ways off from weapons grade uranium, so we’re not facing an immediate threat, and this may motivate China and Russia to take a more hard-line stance towards a nuclear Iran. If our diplomacy efforts do fail, maybe we’ll have a more of an international military effort in Iran.

    I suppose I’m being both optimistic and pacifistic, but I don’t think that’s such a bad thing…

  3. Matt, Iran may not be that far from a nuke at all. According to that article, they might be able to produce the necessary uranium in 16 days after it moves to a larger facility. Though this facility isn’t in place, I think we’d be foolish to let them get any farther.

    I don’t think I’m judging diplomacy too harshly either. In these situations it seems to never work. I wished it worked, as every sane person does, but it seems the simple fact of the matter is it rarely, if ever, does. I agree with you that it should be a necessary step, but I do not understand why so many put such optimism in it. If anything diplomacy works more to the favor of the hardliner dictators and brutes who run these countries because it gives them time to prepare, hide, deceive, exploit, and divide. Diplomacy definitely has it’s role, but it seems to me in these cases it has limited value.

  4. So what should be done? “Axis-of-evil”-ish as Iran may be, we have to start somewhere. If not diplomacy, where?

  5. The Iranian President was democratically elected. Yay democracy in the middle east! Oh shit, the new president of Iran hates the West and the U.S. specifically. I have no idea why. After all we’ve gave them KFC.

    He wants to join the “club of nuclear countries.” HA! Who wants to be in that club? That’s like running into a bank robbery.

    Washington State has some of the most aggressive child labor laws around. And by agressive I mean insane. WA laws regulate when children can work (like if you are supposed to be in school, then you can work from 7-3, and you cant get overtime, and to work at all you have to get so many signatures from your parents, schools, and employers) WA laws prevent a lot of industry from moving there. Like the film industry specifically. But the state’s main industry is agriculture, not film. So the laws are there to protect those children on the farm not the frankie muniz wanna-bes.

    WA is also an “at will” state. Which means the employer or the employee can terminate their relationship (fire or quit) without notice or reason. However the employer does not have to pay you on your last day. Your final paycheck comes in the regular pay schedule. This law makes a lot of sense to me, and I don’t see why french kids don’t want to embrace such a logical and rational move by chirac. oh wait…. they’re french!

  6. I don’t think diplomacy will work here at all. It certainly hasn’t thusfar. We tried to talk Iran out of pursuing their supposed “nuclear energy program” and their people began having more and more American flag-burning parties. We have asked them over and over again to ditch their nuclear efforts and have been met with responses such as “Israel and America will burn in the fire of the Islamic nations” from their freakin PRESIDENT. Diplomacy has failed. We need to begin preparing to strike their nuclear and military facilities ASAP. Unlike Iraq, Iran actually does pose a significant risk to the USA , and has demonstrated-despite diplomatic efforts-their intent to wage war on us and our allies. Hit them now!

  7. At will employment is a double-edged sword. While I do like the fact that employers can fire at will and employees can quit at will. What I don’t like is that the RCW is very skewed towards the employer when it comes to the employee recieving unemployment after being fired without cause. I’ve seen some truly inequitable situations resulting from employers who want the benefit of firing at will, without cause, but will be sneaky in order to avoid paying unemployment.

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